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I know, probably not allowed but... [Jun. 19th, 2006|01:17 pm]
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Seeing as there's so few... chil'lins hanging around...


02 Jasmine
05 Tiger Lily (Lauren Masiello, the Peter Pan musical)
20 The Jazz Singer (1927)

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Tiger Lily icons at top of the page, well, right after the Princess Jasmine. Loads fairly quickly so you can just snag those and go without waiting for the Jazz Singer.

I usually hate it when you have to go to someone's journal to get an icon, but I'm lazy today.


Posted at my LJ and the Aladdin community, agrabah, http://community.livejournal.com/agrabah


Oh! And here's some food for thought, looking at another post, who are the pirates and the Indians in the "real world"? Were the pirates really that cruel? Is the tribe all one nation, or is it a combination? What is Neverland? Different peoples dreams occuring at once? Purgatory? What happens when you die in Neverland?

[User Picture]From: padaviya
2006-08-06 11:39 am (UTC)
Barrie really doesn't go into detail about the pirates, so it's hard to tell who they might actually be in real life. Since Barrie was Scottish and to my knowledge never spent time in North America, and since there were a lot of misconceptions about Natives back then, he likely just mushed together impressions of them from popular images of the time. They likely don't reflect any real group of people.

As for what is Neverland - he describes it as a dream place that seems to exist for every child, but is different for every child (ever read any Charles deLint? He has similar ideas with the Otherworld - that it's one place with its own rules of existence, but is different for each person).

It isn't just a dreamplace though - he says explicity, during Mrs. Darling's dream early on in the book, that she felt as though the Neverland had gotten to close, and a part of it (Peter) had broken through. So it may exist in dreams, but that doesn't mean it isn't real. It has an actual presence that seems to be normally only accessible through dreams, but on occasion is accessible during waking life. I would imagine that if you're in the Neverland while dreaming and you die, you wouldn't actually die in real life (unless maybe you believe that if you die in a dream, you'll actually die in your sleep), but if you're in the Neverland in your actual body, the way Wendy and the boys were and you die, then you would actually be dead (that could be why most children only access it in their dreams - it's safer that way).
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[User Picture]From: broadwaypoetez
2006-08-09 02:43 am (UTC)
"As for what is Neverland - he describes it as a dream place that seems to exist for every child, but is different for every child."

I know, I remember reading it, but that concept confused me. Michael dreamed of lagoons flying over flamingos, where was that? But all of the children's main fantasies blended together, the pirate and the Indian adventures, (and, well, Wendy became a mother and received her wolf pup.)

So, if I were to fly with my brothers, what exactly would be there? Star Wars, a forest, Disneyland all mixed together, or some inner child fantasy that we all share?

(Sorry it that's a little incoherent, I just came back from a week-long trip in Vermont.)

Hmm, what's Peter, then? The Eternal Youth that guided children when they died. Is he a part of everyone's dream, or does he exist in reality, sleeping somewhere and having elaborate time-travel dreams where the fantasy never ends because the dreams are so insane?

(And I just confused myself right there.)
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